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LordofFlames
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Re: DO NOT FUCK WITH THE LADY OF PAIN
Zweihart wrote: All this waiting for no response. I am disappointed, I knew I forgot something. What you explain seems to be a military gathering, but they also needs to find a way to change humanity philosophically as well, or it will just be another military campaign in the already war beset universe. How is this character going to be able to speak to the heart of the people, who are getting drilled and indoctrined by the Imperial Cult?
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Pretty much the same way as the Tau, actually. They're able to sway worlds away -despite- being Xenos to a bunch of xenophobically indoctrinated obscure twats. If the same or at least similar levels of freedom and increased levels of quality of life could be offered by a non-xeno source, I think it's pretty obvious it would be taken up. Plus, I'm of the firm belief that a happy worker is more productive than an unhappy worker, so it's not just "niceness" it's a long term strategy. As for the problem of the Cult itself, there's a number of ways to deal with it but again looking to the Water Caste, it seems like one of the best way to do so is... by not touching it much at all. Just let them believe what they want to believe and slowly over the course of generations make small tweaks and adjustments that progressively wil lreach the ultimate goal.
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Re: DO NOT FUCK WITH THE LADY OF PAIN
tomorow im going to read through everything you posted here but its freeform so i dont expect much quality
only good freeform is the mages guild
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Re: DO NOT FUCK WITH THE LADY OF PAIN
Firstly, I'm not even doing RP here because people suck at it.
Secondly, if you think you NEED dice rolls and systems to write a good story, then you're immensely more stupid than I thought.
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I've seen pretty great freeform RPs in my travels.
Hell, I've also seen pretty great dice RPs in my travels too.
People need to travel more.
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woo travel
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@Zwei: Making use of the Tau's wya of converting is a sound idea. And since they arent even "Xeno Scum" they would probably have it easier changing them. Of course they'd have to start someone inside the imperium first, and then take the outer planets. Because coming almost alone and try to convince a fringeworld to join with nothing to over might be a bit.... eh. As for freeform RP, that's how me and my friend does it. In my view, if you feel FORCED to use dice for something, you ain't doing it right :D There is good freeform, and like anything else it takes repetition and practise. If you constantly play by the GW rules, all you learn is the rules. If you constantly train and use freeform, you learn to create. Just saying
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Ah but the thing is, they've been managing to keep a level of Order and Quick Response in their corner of the Koronus Expanse that's far better than the "maybe hope something will come within the next hundred years" policy the IG has for the wider imperium. The player who does the Rogue Trader responsible for all those worlds even started making statues and shits and a temple on his Capitol world because I've pretty much always been there in some way or form when his people needed help. I've sponsored the creation of a highly-trained, Well-equipped Legio Auxillia by using my Mechanicum contacts and sending a few squads to personally oversee training regiments so all of his planets now have pretty much highly Elite regiments to first Response even if I'm not around and my marines are far away.
By the way, the Armored Regiments are full of Malcadors instead of Lemans and use Minotaurs instead of Basilisks because one of the Mechanicum worlds I'm most buddy with is M'khand and it's the only world who still mass-produces those.
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Zweihart wrote: Ah but the thing is, they've been managing to keep a level of Order and Quick Response in their corner of the Koronus Expanse that's far better than the "maybe hope something will come within the next hundred years" policy the IG has for the wider imperium. The player who does the Rogue Trader responsible for all those worlds even started making statues and shits and a temple on his Capitol world because I've pretty much always been there in some way or form when his people needed help. I've sponsored the creation of a highly-trained, Well-equipped Legio Auxillia by using my Mechanicum contacts and sending a few squads to personally oversee training regiments so all of his planets now have pretty much highly Elite regiments to first Response even if I'm not around and my marines are far away.
By the way, the Armored Regiments are full of Malcadors instead of Lemans and use Minotaurs instead of Basilisks because one of the Mechanicum worlds I'm most buddy with is M'khand and it's the only world who still mass-produces those. I'd want to hear the story of how you managed to get all buddy-buddy with part of the machine cult..... 'cuz, those guys protect their machinery harder than a dragon hoards gold. Well then, seems like it might be off to a good start. And you seem to be getting along well with the people, wich will make for easier change. And again, you being human makes it easier. And what is your sight on Xenos? Do you have allies? Dealings with other races? Religion, do you continue to faith in the emperor or do you preach of science and progress as the emperor did ages past? And what sort of retaliation have you met with so far? By this point the Inquisition would have declared you all traitors, no? The turning of imperial worlds does not go unnoticed for an eternety, even in the fringeworlds.
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Mostly by helping protect their worlds on numerous occasions and sort-of-acting like an Explorator Fleet in the fact they they've been keeping an active lookout for STC fragments and other likewise shenanigans the Mechanicum is very interested in. Most recently they managed to recover a long-lost maniple of far-flung Titans from the Crusade days or perhaps even earlier.
As for Xenos, the RT himself is kind of "If they accept to worship the Emperor they can live in my colonies" and is relatively accepting. Me I'm just like, dodging the issue as much as possible and turning occasional blind eyes but never putting a formal statement.
As for turning, there has been no turning. Even though I have vast influence there those worlds still worship the Emperor and pay their tithes and all that shite. My guys don't do the worship thing and do preach rationality and science, all the more so because the 'Chapter Master' found ancient records that stated this was indeed what Big E wanted and promoted. There's been a few Inquisitors and ultra-puritan chapters who showed up and tried to stir shit but so far I've pretty much managed to discredit every single one of them through an application of a mixture of the always under-rated Logic and Rationality allied with some good old Alpha Legion-inspired cunning and manipulation.
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Zweihart wrote: Mostly by helping protect their worlds on numerous occasions and sort-of-acting like an Explorator Fleet in the fact they they've been keeping an active lookout for STC fragments and other likewise shenanigans the Mechanicum is very interested in. Most recently they managed to recover a long-lost maniple of far-flung Titans from the Crusade days or perhaps even earlier.
As for Xenos, the RT himself is kind of "If they accept to worship the Emperor they can live in my colonies" and is relatively accepting. Me I'm just like, dodging the issue as much as possible and turning occasional blind eyes but never putting a formal statement.
As for turning, there has been no turning. Even though I have vast influence there those worlds still worship the Emperor and pay their tithes and all that shite. My guys don't do the worship thing and do preach rationality and science, all the more so because the 'Chapter Master' found ancient records that stated this was indeed what Big E wanted and promoted. There's been a few Inquisitors and ultra-puritan chapters who showed up and tried to stir shit but so far I've pretty much managed to discredit every single one of them through an application of a mixture of the always under-rated Logic and Rationality allied with some good old Alpha Legion-inspired cunning and manipulation. Again, sounds like things are going well. Now, as we know an untrained psyker is dangerous to leave around, especially a human one. What do you do with unsanctioned psykers who doesnt make the cut to become sanctioned? Do you send them on the Black Ships or.....? Have you had any problems with the Cabal in any way? Any contacts within the Illuminated? And from where do you get your Gene-seed? Where do you recruit new marines? If I remember correctly most legions except for special cirumstances counted along the lines of 100 000 no? Is it even possible to achieve that amount of Gene-seed today?
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Actually on the topic of psykers it's someone else who mostly handles that. A loyalist Thousand Sons who refused to take part in the Heresy I found wandering in the Vortex and brought back and since then he's been trying to remake a new Prospero into a paradise world both nature-wise and culture-wise and the RT dumps most of his psykers on his planets at him. He's really just staying in his little corner and I don't really do much of anything with him. Also, my chapter has very few psykers due to Gene-seed properties. Their gene-seed is very pure and resistant to mutation, but in counterpart they very rarely get psychic powers and if they do then not as strongly as standard librarians. Also, I don't actually know dick about the Illuminati and no one is playing them.
They usually had 100K~150K yeah. They have two recruitment methods, firstly the classic one where they just scan through a number of recruitment world in their area of influence and secondly there's a small group called the Knights Inductor, consisting of four squads of Tactical Marines each with their small escort vessel whose sol purpose is to travel, find potential recruits and bring them back. This may increase as that number was before a significant time-skip. Additionally, they have a very active apothecarion and deploy a lot of apothecaries, on top of picking their battles carefully in order to waste as little gene-seed as possible. Considering that a marine who survives 10 years produces 2 progenoids, a calculatedly careful deployment can actually make numbers rise much more quickly than they're making it out to be, especially when you think that most Chapters do HEROIC SUICIDES ASSAULTS YAY all the time so they keep -wasting- their numbers. Also, if I recall correctly, one of the two progenoids actually regrow so marines who survive longer than 10 years may produce more. Then there's also the fact that my Recruitment Tests do NOT involve sending fully-naked 10 years olds trying to arm-wrestle some local beast with a 99% mortality rate....
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Zweihart wrote: Actually on the topic of psykers it's someone else who mostly handles that. A loyalist Thousand Sons who refused to take part in the Heresy I found wandering in the Vortex and brought back and since then he's been trying to remake a new Prospero into a paradise world both nature-wise and culture-wise and the RT dumps most of his psykers on his planets at him. He's really just staying in his little corner and I don't really do much of anything with him. Also, my chapter has very few psykers due to Gene-seed properties. Their gene-seed is very pure and resistant to mutation, but in counterpart they very rarely get psychic powers and if they do then not as strongly as standard librarians. Also, I don't actually know dick about the Illuminati and no one is playing them.
They usually had 100K~150K yeah. They have two recruitment methods, firstly the classic one where they just scan through a number of recruitment world in their area of influence and secondly there's a small group called the Knights Inductor, consisting of four squads of Tactical Marines each with their small escort vessel whose sol purpose is to travel, find potential recruits and bring them back. This may increase as that number was before a significant time-skip. Additionally, they have a very active apothecarion and deploy a lot of apothecaries, on top of picking their battles carefully in order to waste as little gene-seed as possible. Considering that a marine who survives 10 years produces 2 progenoids, a calculatedly careful deployment can actually make numbers rise much more quickly than they're making it out to be, especially when you think that most Chapters do HEROIC SUICIDES ASSAULTS YAY all the time so they keep -wasting- their numbers. Also, if I recall correctly, one of the two progenoids actually regrow so marines who survive longer than 10 years may produce more. Then there's also the fact that my Recruitment Tests do NOT involve sending fully-naked 10 years olds trying to arm-wrestle some local beast with a 99% mortality rate.... The one in the neck is 5 years, and the one in the chest is 10, unless I am mistaken. Hmm Your group seems definately logical, although it would be fun if you could ask the other fellow of how you all handle the psyker issue. Also, what sort of logical dismissal can be used to make even Inquisitor with unlimited political power not find out about the building of a legion? And again, if you rely on having easier recruitment and not so many suicide missions, being more inside the imperium would make things go faster for you wouldnt it? I mean, between necrons, orcs, chaos, tyranids yeah you name it, the number of space marines might not grow that fast. Or are you using specific "growth" marines that doesnt see real battle unless completely necessary? Since the marines/astartes/persons personal experience has no effect on the seed what so ever.
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The Inquisition is actually all a big game of Influence, they only have as much power as they do long as they have credibility and support of their peers, just like other Puritans. For example one of the extra-puritan chapters who showed up a while back turned out to have a traitor in their midst, who nearly ruined the recovery of the stasis chamber of an old Saint and called in an invasion. They were disgraced while me and the Thousand Sons guy who was around this time were the one who dealt with the Chaos attack and save the Saint while the Puritans were still reeling from the betrayal of their Chief Librarian. They couldn't accuse us of anything afterwards and went back with their tails between their legs. It's kind of the same with Inquisitors, except worse because they have rivals in the opposing factions who actively want to thwart one another. Also, do note that there's never been a recorded deployment over chapter space in a single place at any given time except for the 13th Black Crusade where there was 15 companies' worth, hardly the best place for investigations.
As for the organization itself, since they're fleet-based and don't deploy over chapter strength in a given battle they're kind of pulling the same thing as the Black Templars, who are rumored to have 6K warriors across their crusade fleets. ALSO. Since the Wyrms use the Legio organization, they have no scout squads/companies. Most Millenials use Outrider Squads and Seeker Squads for their own purposes and the 4th Millenial with its light warfare/guerilla support has a ton of Legion Recon Squads most of which equipped with all Snipers. Ultimately though, it's the proper use of adequate recon, caution, appropriate tactics, responses and the ability of being able to fall back if things are unfavorable instead of being obligated to HONORABLE LAST STAND that preserves the most lives.
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Zweihart wrote: The Inquisition is actually all a big game of Influence, they only have as much power as they do long as they have credibility and support of their peers, just like other Puritans. For example one of the extra-puritan chapters who showed up a while back turned out to have a traitor in their midst, who nearly ruined the recovery of the stasis chamber of an old Saint and called in an invasion. They were disgraced while me and the Thousand Sons guy who was around this time were the one who dealt with the Chaos attack and save the Saint while the Puritans were still reeling from the betrayal of their Chief Librarian. They couldn't accuse us of anything afterwards and went back with their tails between their legs. It's kind of the same with Inquisitors, except worse because they have rivals in the opposing factions who actively want to thwart one another. Also, do note that there's never been a recorded deployment over chapter space in a single place at any given time except for the 13th Black Crusade where there was 15 companies' worth, hardly the best place for investigations.
As for the organization itself, since they're fleet-based and don't deploy over chapter strength in a given battle they're kind of pulling the same thing as the Black Templars, who are rumored to have 6K warriors across their crusade fleets. ALSO. Since the Wyrms use the Legio organization, they have no scout squads/companies. Most Millenials use Outrider Squads and Seeker Squads for their own purposes and the 4th Millenial with its light warfare/guerilla support has a ton of Legion Recon Squads most of which equipped with all Snipers. Ultimately though, it's the proper use of adequate recon, caution, appropriate tactics, responses and the ability of being able to fall back if things are unfavorable instead of being obligated to HONORABLE LAST STAND that preserves the most lives. Well then, apart from hoping you might get some psyker answers from the other peep, I dont think I have any further questions right now. o.o might think of more later. May the Emperor ever light your way, and I'll pray for you all to not get om nom nomed
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