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Resilence wrote:

Lord of Flames, Remon - You are both right.
Rather than evolving into someting new, i say this forum needs some major tune-up and a little of cleaning.

For a note forum is created for people and their needs and has to respond to them. Famous musicias can be a good example - they make porn out of their video clips because that's what majority wants to see.
Most of people find this page trough our chatango profiles, and we all know what's the majority of chatango inhabitants like. Even more good RPG and hentai / porn stuff isn't such a bad idea.

I don't deny that we should also have more really serious or no-spamming content. Truth to be told, this forum isn't very attractive and appealing as it is right now to serious-topics-lovers but in first place, they are minority in place that most of our audience comes from.
Serious isn't very appealing to most of our members cause they come here to have some fun and easygoing talk, run from the serious topics in their real life. Seriuos here is used most of the time as means to let go of your frustration about something so it never will be as popular as spam and won't attract many members.
Im my opinion issue lies a little elswhere.

As new person here i find this forum in very chaotic state. Spaming isn't my thing so most of the time here i read posts in gen no spam and serious. I'm not really sure if serious should even exist, I often think "why not merge it with gen no-spam?", from my point of view - there's little or no difference between them right now. At many ocasions i get confused about this site structure.
First thing o do - I would work on clarity / transparency of the forum (You first clean the shelfs out of dirt and useless, expired stuff, then later segregate the things you really want to put on them).
I would also try working on more user-friendly design of the site to refresh it a little. For a site that mainly consits on fun stuff, it's really dark and cold.

And as we moved to the new members attraction topic - this forum is hard to find in first place, most people like myself find it by accident and curiosity. If you want to have more members i would really sugest some form of publicity. Advertising! Good form of advertisment works miracles, just ask Billy Mays.
Facebook page, tweet, signbars / banners in other forums, also on chatango profiles, meaby some tagging to be found in top 10-20 trough google search, meaby distribution of games to other sites and bar in partnership section would attract attention, some serious/funny project, tutorial on YT? (i'm not an expert, just sayin)

Author:	Rem [ Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:35 pm ]
Post subject:	The State of Gen Serious
Alright, I really don't know where to start here. But I didn't get used to general spam immediately either, so I imagine it will just take a little bit. Anyways, this place is a shithole. So it's time to redefine it. I look at it this way: It's a chance to start anew, and make this place even better than it was before. I'll start trying to keep on top of world issues, site shutdowns, semi-coherent conspiracy theories, that kind of thing. If I ever find something that really makes me think during the day, I'll post about it. And then when someone comes by and starts discussing it, I'll be forced to look more into it, and start making proper arguments and supporting statements and proof. And hopefully that will attract more people, as well. We really do need more people, desperately. Varieties of people. But hey, it's supposed to be a discussion. What're your thoughts on what this board, or even this site, need?

Author:	「H A N Z O」 [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:25 am ]
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That this belongs in non-spam (as opposed to gen serious), for a start, but it really does show how badly this site need to be reformed a little. On the issue at hand I agree with you wholeheartedly, and will be cleaning this board and the others of the pure shit that has been posted on them as and when I have time to deal with them. As I said before, I will also be taking the moderation of these boards as serious business until someone stops me or it's deemed as legal by Yom.

Author:	Rem [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:32 am ]
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I'm not entirely sure, but I feel like you're saying you're going to move all the topics that don't legitimately belong in general serious. Which is great, it would give me an idea of the standards I need to hold when posting in there. And other people, for that matter.

Author:	「H A N Z O」 [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:46 am ]
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Yup, slowly but surely I'm going to remove the shitposts that have been polluting the place. General serious is somewhere that should require well thought out answers of a reasonable length and relevance. I'm getting sick of one sentence answers that contribute nothing to the original topic, or topics that shouldn't be in general serious in the first place. So yeah, from here on out I'll be moderating the hell out of it and trying to keep it of a decent standard, when I have time of course.

Author:	Rem [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:11 am ]
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Of course. If you give me an idea what's acceptable I can go through and bump all the shit posts so its easy to get rid of them. I can probably determine what's spam or not, but Ill just bump with where it needs to go.

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Author:	「H A N Z O」 [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:24 am ]
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viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1972 That topic, or at least the first page, is what general serious should be striving to be. The opening post was well articulated, had a serious point and an opinion, and as a bonus, had acceptable grammar. The follow up posts were of a reasonable length and were all on topic.

Author:	Odin Anarki [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:22 am ]
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I'll indeed too, Attempt to give full, well thought out serious responses I tend to be a very good rambler, so I'm sure I can flesh out my ramblings and turn them into full, coherent thoughts, chock full of information

Author:	Parpol [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:00 pm ]
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I think I've made 5 posts in general serious ever. I've never been a very serious guy. hell, I don't even read the stuff that's in there.

Author:	deadlyfox [ Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:12 pm ]
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i havve only read one or two but answered like two i think but spam is where i like to be

Author:	LordofFlames [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:49 am ]
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I am going for once, to ignore my cat-like behaviour and share with you the mind that hides behind my avatar. Anything, that has something to do with socializing, interests, thoughts etc. needs a few things to start up, work, and continue working. What works and what does not of course differs from person to person, object to object, subject to subject, and time to time. Time, Space and Content are the most important factors to calculate. And for example, people, such as us, falls under content, with all our ideas and interests etc. The idea of Forkheads was, and still is an awesome idea, in theory. Klacid and Tent made things that brought people together, and craved for someplace to share this common need for breaking the status quo. Sharing the madness. FH was always about leaving the monotome and the regular things of "normal" society, because it is an old and outdated model that doesnt have the capability to follow the modern times and its people. FH was supposed to be a sanctuary for those who just wasnt satisfied with the "normal". It was a place where anything could happen. And it thrived, and evolved, since people were experimenting, letting loose and shooting for the stars. ON THE INTERNET. Many people claim that the following lack of attendance to FH was due to the lack of content, as in our flash products and original ideas. I do not believe this was the only thing. Nor currently is either. But the new Original Content we are trying to produce, IS paying off. We have gained a few new members, drawn some old back. We are at the stage "Need a few things to start working" and are getting closer to the stage of "Is currently working". Our biggest challenge will be to make it fully work, and then, "continue working". So what do we need? More flash? More people? More porn? I believe, we need what was back then. And im not talking about hanging on to old glory days, nor the flash, people, porn, or anything like that. We need PROGRESS, NEW IDEAS, EXPERIMENTATION, DEMOCRACY and CHANGE. We need to EVOLVE. So frankly, even if we went fully berserk and put the forum to the flames, we would still be trying something! Attempt to evolve the concept of "this is how it should be" and grow as a community! This is just my 2 cents anyways, a classic rambling finisher. <.<

Author:	Rem [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:43 pm ]
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I agree with most of the things LoF says. But we can't be blind about it. LoF, I feel you're an "anything, so long as it's something" kind of guy. But I feel that's too blind. We can't just flail around madly and hope we hit. We have to choose our target, and dive straight for it! It's true, we need to fix what's wrong first. I don't know if we can agree on what's most important, or even what needs to be fixed. But that's why we have to use Klacid's vision. A site to break the norm. A place to truly feel free! And we will fix what's wrong. And then we can improve. As LoF says, we must evolve! We shall create new glory days. Except this time, we can know that they will come again. True, there may be bad spots along the way, and even more after we achieve what we hope for. But we can't stop moving. We have to keep growing, and being true to the spirit of FH! Klacid is gone. Hell, many people are gone. It is those of us here now who will shape the future. Much in the same way Klacid shaped the foundations for this site, we will shape it in our own vision. There is no universal truth, viewpoint, or anything. We are as subjective as the things we believe. And in that flaw, we can keep moving forward to limitless bounds! We must focus on the future! We may learn from the past, but it will only bring grief to dwell on it. When I first got here it was intimidating how much reference to the past there was. How it was looked at with longing eyes. We must turn that into motivation! Remember how great that was, and think about how much better the future will be. How much easier it will be to get there. We already have an amazing foundation for this creation, so let's make something beautiful in its own right. A monument to the grandeur that was, is, and will be, FH!

Author:	Shortpenguin [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:15 pm ]
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I've been gone for far too long, I have no idea what's going on.

Author:	LordofFlames [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:38 am ]
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Remon wrote: I agree with most of the things LoF says. But we can't be blind about it. LoF, I feel you're an "anything, so long as it's something" kind of guy. But I feel that's too blind. We can't just flail around madly and hope we hit. We have to choose our target, and dive straight for it! You may feel whatever you want about me Remon But what I said about "even if we have to put the forum to the flames" was merely an example. Not once in my text have I denounced the need for focus, or order. I dare though, to claim, that we are focusing on the wrong things. I am actually of the very firm belief, that our current route, or mindset about FH and its future... is very narrow-minded. That we see what we want..... but not what we need. FH wasnt created out of nothing, or on the mindset "anything, so long as it's something", nor do I have that mindset. It was you and AFH the other day that was talking about order and organizing the madness. I'm all for it you know. I just think were are going the wrong way about it. I also have many other thoughts and feelings about FH that I want to share, but I will not, simply because I dont believe anyone would listen. You have set a goal together that you want to reach. And you are reaching for it. Voices who goes against whatever mindset or focus you guys have set up at the moment are getting smaller, passing by unheard. So I will do as I have always done since I joined FH back when it was brand new. I will watch. And I will wait. And hope that you guys are right.

Author:	Resilence [ Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:24 am ]
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Lord of Flames, Remon - You are both right. Rather than evolving into someting new, i say this forum needs some major tune-up and a little of cleaning. For a note forum is created for people and their needs and has to respond to them. Famous musicias can be a good example - they make porn out of their video clips because that's what majority wants to see. Most of people find this page trough our chatango profiles, and we all know what's the majority of chatango inhabitants like. Even more good RPG and hentai / porn stuff isn't such a bad idea. I don't deny that we should also have more really serious or no-spamming content. Truth to be told, this forum isn't very attractive and appealing as it is right now to serious-topics-lovers but in first place, they are minority in place that most of our audience comes from. Serious isn't very appealing to most of our members cause they come here to have some fun and easygoing talk, run from the serious topics in their real life. Seriuos here is used most of the time as means to let go of your frustration about something so it never will be as popular as spam and won't attract many members. Im my opinion issue lies a little elswhere. As new person here i find this forum in very chaotic state. Spaming isn't my thing so most of the time here i read posts in gen no spam and serious. I'm not really sure if serious should even exist, I often think "why not merge it with gen no-spam?", from my point of view - there's little or no difference between them right now. At many ocasions i get confused about this site structure. First thing o do - I would work on clarity / transparency of the forum (You first clean the shelfs out of dirt and useless, expired stuff, then later segregate the things you really want to put on them). I would also try working on more user-friendly design of the site to refresh it a little. For a site that mainly consits on fun stuff, it's really dark and cold. And as we moved to the new members attraction topic - this forum is hard to find in first place, most people like myself find it by accident and curiosity. If you want to have more members i would really sugest some form of publicity. Advertising! Good form of advertisment works miracles, just ask Billy Mays. Facebook page, tweet, signbars / banners in other forums, also on chatango profiles, meaby some tagging to be found in top 10-20 trough google search, meaby distribution of games to other sites and bar in partnership section would attract attention, some serious/funny project, tutorial on YT? (i'm not an expert, just sayin)

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Author:	Pantsman [ Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:42 pm ]
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Resilence wrote: Lord of Flames, Remon - You are both right. Rather than evolving into someting new, i say this forum needs some major tune-up and a little of cleaning. For a note forum is created for people and their needs and has to respond to them. Famous musicias can be a good example - they make porn out of their video clips because that's what majority wants to see. Most of people find this page trough our chatango profiles, and we all know what's the majority of chatango inhabitants like. Even more good RPG and hentai / porn stuff isn't such a bad idea. I don't deny that we should also have more really serious or no-spamming content. Truth to be told, this forum isn't very attractive and appealing as it is right now to serious-topics-lovers but in first place, they are minority in place that most of our audience comes from. Serious isn't very appealing to most of our members cause they come here to have some fun and easygoing talk, run from the serious topics in their real life. Seriuos here is used most of the time as means to let go of your frustration about something so it never will be as popular as spam and won't attract many members. Im my opinion issue lies a little elswhere. As new person here i find this forum in very chaotic state. Spaming isn't my thing so most of the time here i read posts in gen no spam and serious. I'm not really sure if serious should even exist, I often think "why not merge it with gen no-spam?", from my point of view - there's little or no difference between them right now. At many ocasions i get confused about this site structure. First thing o do - I would work on clarity / transparency of the forum (You first clean the shelfs out of dirt and useless, expired stuff, then later segregate the things you really want to put on them). I would also try working on more user-friendly design of the site to refresh it a little. For a site that mainly consits on fun stuff, it's really dark and cold. And as we moved to the new members attraction topic - this forum is hard to find in first place, most people like myself find it by accident and curiosity. If you want to have more members i would really sugest some form of publicity. Advertising! Good form of advertisment works miracles, just ask Billy Mays. Facebook page, tweet, signbars / banners in other forums, also on chatango profiles, meaby some tagging to be found in top 10-20 trough google search, meaby distribution of games to other sites and bar in partnership section would attract attention, some serious/funny project, tutorial on YT? (i'm not an expert, just sayin) General Spam is basically the community center of FH. Basically, like a main road in a small town. For true spamming, there's Fuckall. Also, I'm curious to hear your thoughts on the site's design; it's a bit strange, hearing 'cold and dark' being used to describe it. I found the soft navy blue to be comforting on the eyes. Maybe I just like cool, dark places because I'm a NEET or something... Still, I'm open to suggestions about improving site layouts. What needs to be added? What needs to be removed?. Last, but not least; I wish I had advertising time - but working on coding our newest project takes up a lot of time. So here's how I plan to pull this off. "Forkheads" get that word out. "The crazy crew from Forkheads presents..." in our flashes. People will start looking for that word; and on google, bing and duckduckgo; our site's the first that comes up. ... I hope that works.