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Explanation: The world's economy is headed to a very bad place, and as of now those in charge of this economy are not just happy about their current model, but thrilled with it, they are "getting rich quick for doing nothing"

well anytime that happens it's an economic loss.

simply put the economy is hanging on by a fortified and defended thread, those in control of the thread are leaving all the things they define as 'waste' at the bottom and draining all the profits directly to the top because they know that the single thread wont hold the weight of the entire economy forever. in short they are gonna get rich and let the rest of everything fall without a single regard as to the effects of that fall to the market or themselves.

Our Goal here is to develop an Economic Evaluation model based on statistics. then to use that model to evaluate countries to determine a Global Economic Value for that country's currency and give a Economic status warning to offending countries.

So why is the economy hanging by a thread? because of corruption and abuse; the economy was once firmly secured with chains, pillars, supports and ropes galore metaphorically speaking, bit by bit those supports were mined away by legislation that thought we could do without them, legislation that was hell bent on establishing an Aristocratic class populated by rich people and 'special cases' aka The New Reich or The Neo Aryan Race. Their goal was to make these people seem like gods and move them to a high position the public could never attain then drain everything they need from below and cut the chords.

in simple terms; a Group Effort to Steal and Run leaving the mass public with no means to follow.

In their plan however they have done some crucial things that will eventually break themselves and the world into a ruined state and they need to realize the error of these efforts.

Whats wrong;

The current leaders of the world economy have decided that Services and Black Gold are the holy grail of economic performance. A country's ability to produce Services and Oil are a direct representation of it's wealth according to other Market Analysts!

due to this the top countries don't actually make enough products to support themselves, nor do they produce enough of the necessities of life to go around, instead they use the money gained from Services and Oil to buy Necessities and products from countries like India, Brasil, Argentina and thailand, countries that can't even feed their own people! the worst part of this is they are selling their high priced oil TO these same starving people who sell them food. This relationship is a broken relationship that will eventually collapse!

All that has to happen is the starving people need to say "fuck these cars and your oil! I want to eat!" and that's the end of the gravy train. Without food to support itself the USA and other top countries will turn over on themselves, loosing value because they can't even supply for their citizens or themselves. In this dire time the USA and Europe will turn into third-world countries, services wont be able to be sustained and no one will purchase things like cellphone service ETC. essentially fired back to the stone age like parts of Africa due to lack of money.

At this point the Current top countries will attempt to rectify this situation by growing their own food, sadly they will discover that they eminent-domained all the farms to turn into corporate service parks and poisoned the soil with things so vegetation wont grow through the concrete. then they will look to the farms already in operation and realize they eminent-domained those too to turn into ethanol farms!, they will find that they poisoned the soil so that anything that grows on it will decay faster so it can be turned into ethanol, they will find that this makes the food grown there contain poison! they will find that Corn (grown to make ethanol) is the worst of all soil ravagers! it takes all the nutrients from the soil so nothing else will grow there except weeds for years!

This is the first point of the economy gone wrong. as an Economic Evaluation We need to consider a country's ability to produce the bare necessities of life as a primary component worth a large portion of that country's currency value.

this means the country must produce enough; food, clean water, basic clothes and housing for itself to be considered anywhere near a leadership position in the market.

Evaluation system; we divide the world by 100% for example there are 196 countries in the world so each country's 100% is worth 0.510204082 percent of the entire world, countries which pick up the slack of other countries or produce innovation which directly increases the quality of life without destroying the production of bare necessities, will be able to get over their initial 100% subtracting economic value from the countries that rely on them. there can be over 100% is the production abilities of all countries exceed the needs of the world.

Military strength will not be assessed as part of economic strength.

Evaluation criteria 1: necessity production
Food, Clean Water, Clothing and housing must be produced and available in adequate amounts and prices for all citizens in your country. Worth 35% of an economy's value. 8.75% for each part, having one thing adequate but having it above affordable rates (people need loans to buy it) means it's a failure. having one area partially supported gives that percent of the 8.75 for that area.

If the country sustains itself and exports these commodities add an Extra percent based on the percent of the foreign economies that rely on it.

Evaluation Criteria 2: Industry strength and Ecosystem
the country's raw ability to manufacture the machines and products it needs to use. over-production ability means the ability to sell your products to other countries for growth. The country's ability to balance industry with the ecosystem so nature is clean and preserved.
25% of an economy's value 12.5% each.

If the country sustains itself and exports these commodities add an Extra percent based on the percent of the foreign economies that rely on it.

Evaluation Criteria 3: Modern Necessities (This only Gets counted for countries who meet all prior criteria)
Electricity, heating, air conditioning, communication systems, worth 15% of an economy's value, only give a full 15% if they not only have all the listed but they are so affordable that people don't worry about using them, if they aren't very affordable give only 7.5%

If the country sustains itself and exports these commodities add an Extra percent based on the percent of the foreign economies that rely on it.

Evaluation Criteria 4: Education and Public Transportation (This only Gets counted for countries who meet all prior criteria)
How affordable is the school system including college? how much ideology and propaganda is inserted into the education documents? (propaganda and ideology pushed decrease value). how affordable is transportation, how much of the country has decent public transportation? how much of the country has no or overly ineffective public transportation and relies on personal transport?
worth 15% of an economy's value
7.5% for education (if not affordable give 3.75%, if filled with political ideology and or propaganda give only 5.625%, if both give 1.875%, if the content of the education is poor give 5.625%, if all are a problem give 0%)
7.5% public transportation (if not over 100% of the populated areas of the country give, divide 7.5 by 100, then multiply by the percent of the country that is covered by public transit. if the consistency of the public transit is poor subtract 1/4th of 7.5 if the price is too high subtract half of 7.5, don't give a lower number than 0%

Evaluation Criteria 5: Entertainment and luxury goods(This only Gets counted for countries who meet all prior criteria)
To keep people from going crazy. it needs to be determined how much choice of entertainment variety exists in the country and how little ideology/propaganda is pushed/used in said entertainment.
worth 10% of an economy's value. if there isn't a good amount of entertainment to choose from (I.E everything is made by a few sanctioned/bribed big name/monopolistic studios) give 7.5%. if the price is high subtract 1/4 of 10%, if it's filled with political ideology when such is unnecessary then subtract 50% of 10%, if all are problems give 0%.

Evaluation Criteria 6: Innovation (This only Gets counted for countries who meet all prior criteria)
the country's ability to create new technology or methods to streamline services or production to decrease costs to the end users.
Worth Extra% based on ability to innovate and help other nations and your own with /MAJOR/ innovations.
The percent of the foreign market that relies on this innovation.



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Forkheads evaluate your country using this scale! post the results! do research and cite things if possible! don't used biased government reports! of course they lie! don't use Biased scientific/ financial reports that agree with the government! They have been paid to lie!

Use your own feelings about the state of your country and the things you have heard which you can personally and directly see effecting people in your country.

We will calculate what the world's currencies should really be worth and bankrupt bad/offending countries over night!

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I will evaluate the USA first as an example, and don't worry yours can differ, the point is to get the public to evaluate how they see their country. that should count for something.

USA:

Necessity production: the USA makes about 30% of the food necessary to feed it's citizens, it imports the rest from India, China, Thailand, Vietnam, Brasil, Honduras and Argentina.

Food 2.91666667%

As far as I know they supply their own drinking water and it's cleanish to a decent standard. 8.75%

They import most of their clothing from China and Taiwan, I'd say they make 25% of the clothes necessary for the population in the USA. 2.1875%

Housing, boy howdy do they have housing, too much of it for the number of people in the USA, but the price is so high even a years wage for a normal worker can't afford it, thats obscene 4.375% of 8.75 (50%%)

Evaluation Criteria section 1; 18.22916667% of a possible 35%


Industry and ecosystem;

Despite their bashing of china for not being eco-friendly the USA is by far one of the dirtiest and most polluted countries which has not embraced green energy except in tiny experiments or near silicon valley with the solar panels. 1.25% of 12.5 (10%%)

Industry; the USA barely makes anything any more, to be fair I'd say 25% of the stuff in the market is made in the USA 3.125% of 12.5% (25%%)

Evaluation criteria section 2; 4.375% of 25%


Country does not meet majority (51%%) of 60% (30.6%) given! The next sections are voided due to this and cannot be applied!

tough shit USA.

seriously though 22.60416667 of 60? that's piss poor.

Lowest grade possible, USA is a 7th world country

1st world (Rank A); 90%+
2nd world (Rank B); 80% to 89.9999999999999%
3rd world (Rank C); 70% to 79.9999999999999%
4th world (Rank D); 60% to 69.9999999999999%
5th world (Rank E); 50% to 59.9999999999999%
6th world (Rank F); 40% to 49.9999999999999%
7th world (ranked out); 29.9999999999999% or less.

22.60416667% of a possible 100% currency value of 0.510204082 means;

one USA dollar is worth $0.1153273810524234694

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And then, USA was South Korea. You got Gainax Ending!

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YomToxic wrote:
And then, USA was South Korea. You got Gainax Ending!


why not tell us about South korea, used what i did as an example, start with how well it feeds, clothes and houses itself and whether there's water for everyone. remember steep prices for anything subtracts half the percent for that one thing. steep prices are something that people would struggle to pay on a typical basis or would have to borrow money to pay.

Ideology in entertainment or school is very easy to spot too, just look for issues the government has been or is pushing and see if they are stressed in the entertainment programs and educational docs.

industry is an easy one, how much of it does your country make?



Here I'll do China as an example;

Necessities: 35% total possible 8.75% each category + extra for over production.

Food: China produces more than enough food for itself and exports the rest to the USA, The UK, Europe and Russia, it's estimated to be the second largest food exporter after India, it's estimated they make 15% of the listed country's food supplies, +15% x 10 countries or so; 8.75 x10 / 100 x 15= 13.125% + it's own 8.75% = 21.875%

Water: China produces enough water for itself and exports some of it's bottled spring water, however the majority of the drinking water in China's cities needs to be boiled before being drank but other than that it's relatively clean. 98%% = 8.575%, it's exports account for maybe 5% of the global bottled water market serving around 20 major countries, so; 8.75x20 /100 x 5 = 8.75% +8.575%= 17.325%

Clothing: China produces nearly all the clothing in the world, they have dirt markets upon dirt markets which manufacture clothing en-mass that gets bought up and labelled by average brand names like Gap and other trendy stores, flip a label up, and don't be surprised, it's made in China. they supply enough clothing for themselves at dirt cheap prices (hence the name dirt market, not as a reference to it's cleanliness though the cleanliness is typically poor in the market but not int he individual stalls.) 8.75% no contest, +an additional 60% of the entire world's clothing market, around 180 countries so; 8.75 * 180 / 100 *60 = 945% Fuck lol that's a lot of clothes.

8.75 + 945% = 953.75%

Housing; there is enough housing in China but the prices can be steep for it's citizens though comparatively cheaper than in western countries. Typically people can comfortably rent in china. 8.75%

Evaluation Criteria 1: 1,001.7% of 35%

over-production FTW and the USA wonders why it's economy seems poor even though the dollar is so strong and why china seems so rich even though their money is so weak.

Industry strength and ecosystem: Worth 25% + over production. 12.5% each category.

Industry: China makes a good deal of the electronics and industrial metals and materials close to 60% of the entire world's industrial supplies are made in China. Complaints about the quality have been voiced by engineers. China imports it's iron from Australia before making it into steel to use itself and sell the excess onwards to the world.

Stats;
60% Global over production
-20%: complaints over quality of it not meeting necessary standards for specific high precision applications.
=40%
-30%% (18%) China does not produce it's own raw materials so some of the profits go to Australia.
=22% net global production of industry resources. serving 100 countries so, 12.5 (* 100 /100 negated) *22 = 275% +it's own 12.5% = 287.5%

Ecosystem; yes there is some smog in china, no worse per say than in California, mostly because of the hot temperatures making the air too thick for smokes and gasses to get through.

there is pollution, but public pollution is nullified, they pay street cleaners to clean the cities from rubbish. Industrial pollution however is something they attempt to stop yet people do it anyways even though it's illegal, there is a lot of pollution even though the law catches factories doing it, for every one they catch there are 12 more they didn't look at yet. they are responsible for a good deal of global pollution at 33%, so 25%% of 12.5% for trying to clean it up, then 12.5 * 196 / 100 *33= -808.5%! +3.125 = -805.375%

Evaluation Criteria 2: 287.5 + -805.375 = -517.875%

TOTAL TALLY OF INITIAL 'BASE' ECONOMY:
1001.7 + -517.875 = 483.825% of 60%

China exceeds 51%% of 60% Move on to next sections!

Modern Necessities:
they have electricity (5%), heating and AC for everyone and it's more than affordable (5%). standing to make 10%
communication systems: they have an amazing communication network(5%), however there's limits on communication technology such as phones(-10%%), computer hardware (-2.5%) and especially what you can see on the internet (-2.5%).-0.5% +10%= 9.5%

Evaluation Criteria 3: 9.5% of 15%, 493.325% of 75% (Above 51%) Continue onwards


Education and public transportation;

Education; their education system through grade school is very strict and high in content(+25%%), from interviewing people there is some information that is omitted from such areas as history(-10%%), but they also include some true historical facts that other countries exclude. What they include is in greater quantity and importance than what is excluded(+10%%). There is little international current events in the education system leaving many unaware of things going on outside China, but that's more a media issue(No change). Grade school is affordable (+25%%).

higher education; college is affordable and up to required education standards to a bachelor level (+25%%). Masters level and higher education is inadequate entirely and stands as though it's just bachelor level 2 and 3. (-25%%)

50%% of 7.5% = 3.75%

Transportation;
The public transportation system is impressive to say the least, however there are a few areas where the network needs updating and needs accommodation for a bigger market and could be faster and more frequent but over the majority of the country's big economic areas has above adequate transportation that is affordable. Over the entire country 80% of the populated regions are covered by public transport of a suitable variety for their needs, 20% of the population sees no transport at all. +80%%%

private transportation is on the rise in China (+25%%%), much like in other countries this rise stands as a social status symbol and everyone wants it, the prices of it are cheap compared to other countries (+25%%%), however in an over populated country this stands as a detriment to the roadways causing extreme congestion and slower travel times for commuters in major economic areas than if they took public transport(-50%%%). 0%%%

7.5/2= 3.75 /100 *80 = 3%

Evaluation Criteria 4: 3.75 + 3 = 6.75% of 15%

500.075% of 90% country exceeds 51%, continue onwards.

Entertainment and luxury goods:

Entertainment; there is a good deal of entertainment to choose from, it's loaded with typical plot points (+50%%%), some miniscule ideology is used mostly to promote personal morals to a specific standard (miniscule means no change).

The price of entertainment is high, for example movie tickets can exceed 150 yuan, however that is not determined by the Chinese system, Chinese movie company tickets sell for 50 yuan which is cheap, there are more studios that you can shake a stick at and most are not big names, lots of Indie studios! (+50%%%), there is a relative lack of specific information about other countries but that's due to other countries not allowing Chinese media to investigate stories in those countries.

+50%%

Luxury goods:
China is one of the leading manufacturers of luxury goods, there are many brands to choose from and a lot of allowance in the market for new brands to start up, there is no large corporate hold over the luxury market, it's something anyone who makes an effort can get into (+50%%%), the prices of luxury commodities made in china are affordable, commodities imported from other countries (USA, Italy, UK) are beyond steep but that's no fault of China it's a fault of the other countries.(+50%%%)

+50%%

Evaluation Criteria 5: 100%% = +10%

510.075%

Innovation:
China is embracing some innovation most of it already designed and tested by other countries, it is pushing some of it's own designs and making some of it's own tests, I estimate China's innovation to stand at 10% of the global innovation scale as china's innovations are to produce better quality of life and better products versus just trying to make some expensive tech that doesn't help normal life (Like the USA does) or serves as a service scheme to make people pay for a value that doesn't exist (also what the USA does).

Evaluation Criteria 6: +10% of global, 196 / 100 * 10 = 19.6%

TOTAL FINAL EVALUATION: 529.675% of 100%

100% of a global currency value is 0.510204082

So 1 Chinese Yuan is projected to be worth 0.510204082 x 5.29675 =
$2.7024234713335 of a global currency value.

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I don't have time to do the whole thing at the moment, but I'll still say that I find the last part of your system inherently flawed. Innovation should in no way require all previous criteria because that makes it selective. If I take where I live for exemple, I did the thing in my head when you first posted it and I'm pretty sure I recall Quebec failed to meet at least one or two of them points, BUT, they still have a world lead in hydroelectricity technology, production and use, which is a semi-clean, forever renewable energy and should qualify for Innovation.

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