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The enemies to a man who works hard. Not literally, but metaphorically.
The government takes over half of what you own and gives it to the poor. The Vatican believes that everything you make belongs to God. And Moscow wants to make it that everyone gets the same thing and shares completely. (Communist Moscow).
So, is this right?
Notice the Bioshock Reference
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Re: Government, Vatican and Moscow
What i make is mine, what i steal is mine, what i buy is mine. Simple.
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Re: Government, Vatican and Moscow
CarsitoPyg wrote:
The enemies to a man who works hard. Not literally, but metaphorically.
The government takes over half of what you own and gives it to the poor. The Vatican believes that everything you make belongs to God. And Moscow wants to make it that everyone gets the same thing and shares completely. (Communist Moscow).
So, is this right?
Notice the Bioshock Reference
This post doesnt make any sense. I dont see the Bioshock reference.
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Re: Government, Vatican and Moscow
clueless_furball wrote:
CarsitoPyg wrote:
The enemies to a man who works hard. Not literally, but metaphorically.
The government takes over half of what you own and gives it to the poor. The Vatican believes that everything you make belongs to God. And Moscow wants to make it that everyone gets the same thing and shares completely. (Communist Moscow).
So, is this right?
Notice the Bioshock Reference
This post doesnt make any sense. I dont see the Bioshock reference.
This can be for two reasons 1. you never played Bioshock 2. you played Bioshock, but with no sound 3. you're a dumbass 4. (most likely) 1 or 2 with 3
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Re: Government, Vatican and Moscow
Would you kindly?
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Re: Government, Vatican and Moscow
Actually, the Vatican believes ultimately YOU DID NOT make anything. God gave it all to you in one form or another (and even if you say: "But I did some work for it" he gave you the ability to do that work/ the life energy to be able to do anything). Some have argued (Aquinas, for instance) that man is given "Stewardship" over material things, and thus has control over it as he sees fit within certain guidelines.
You could also argue that when you get down to it, God gave it to you, one way or another, so it is yours, though yours as a more or less undeserved gift. This becomes strongly relevant in certain aspects of Christianity in particular in Soteriology, which would say that Christ has elevated man and given him much to call his own (in some senses), as He has united man to Himself, and thus, if you wanted to make the argument, things of this world can really be man's through them really being God's as Man has been united to God and entrusted with much power and responsibility.
Others would argue what you end up with anyway is actually the material things owning you rather than the other way around, for various reasons such as your desire to acquire them, your responsibilities to maintain them, your duty to protect them, so on.
I could go on, but as you can see its a bit more complicated than all that, but in the end, the Vatican in particular, in some encyclicals and such, recognizes the right of man to possess material goods, though they should not consume his life or be seen as ends in themselves, and again we could get into more complicated grounds if we went off from here.
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