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Author:  Pantsman [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:42 pm ]
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psychokittyboy wrote:
And no, it is not "partly his". He had no hand in its creation other than being the vocalist, which gives him NO artistic rights for it.


LMFAO. Oh man. If this isn't a contradiction, I don't know what is.

PKB, the rest of the world doesnt play by the RIAA/MPAA's rules. Also, there IS a world out there.

Author:  BlackAmethyst [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:55 pm ]
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psychokittyboy wrote:
lol newfag. I'm not going to respect a dumb fuck who refuses to accept when he is wrong.


Well errr, actually yes you are. This is out of General Spam so if you start flaming the fuck out of him just because he has different knowledge/opinion than you about a band then I am sorry but that contravenes to Rule 4 and I'm going to pin you a warning as my position actually makes me "Chief of Staff" in a larger sense. Graphs were made, Lime aproved, BAWWW in general Spam because this thread is about favorite songs, not you getting butthurt and throwing a tantrum.

Author:  Sublem [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:11 pm ]
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THANK YOU GUYS!

And KITTY learn the rules of the music business... REALLY.

Author:  psychokittyboy [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:54 pm ]
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Seika wrote:
psychokittyboy wrote:
lol newfag. I'm not going to respect a dumb fuck who refuses to accept when he is wrong.


Well errr, actually yes you are. This is out of General Spam so if you start flaming the fuck out of him just because he has different knowledge/opinion than you about a band then I am sorry but that contravenes to Rule 4 and I'm going to pin you a warning as my position actually makes me "Chief of Staff" in a larger sense. Graphs were made, Lime aproved, BAWWW in general Spam because this thread is about favorite songs, not you getting butthurt and throwing a tantrum.





1. It isn't an opinion, it is a fact.

2. Kain, I don't give a fuck about you. Music is for the debate and discussion of music, as defined by FH.biz, and Klacid's rules. I am debating it. I may be rude, but that doesn't change the fact that I am laying out correct information. So brush that sand out of your vagina and walk along kiddo.

3. To yomtoxic. Creation. Meaning Writing of lyrics and music. Ever read rights in a CD cover? I bet not, seeing as you just stepped on that land mine. It does not add every member of the band just because they happened to perform the song.

4. New kid, just admit you were wrong and get over it. I laid out how it is not an Ozzy song, you have yet to be able to make a rebuttle, thus a loss.

Author:  BlackAmethyst [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:02 pm ]
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oh, but you indeed were only laying information... for now, which is why I interfered BEFORE it became something else. :)

Oh, and just so I don't become off-topic myself, I decided to whack one of your arguments a little.

Quote:
3. To yomtoxic. Creation. Meaning Writing of lyrics and music. Ever read rights in a CD cover? I bet not, seeing as you just stepped on that land mine. It does not add every member of the band just because they happened to perform the song.


Actually, and for the posterity, I just did. "Emery Street - No Regrets no Apologies" a new band my uncle just got me a CD from. All I see is Flesh Market Inc All rights reserved. Never anywhere on the pocket or the inside lyrics thingy is it said that the writer and composer of both music and lyrics Sebastian Schwartz owns any right of anything. I don't give a shit it doesn't help prove a performer's ownsership rights it still prove your referance as invalid :)

Author:  「H A N Z O」 [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:04 pm ]
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YomToxic wrote:
psychokittyboy wrote:
And no, it is not "partly his". He had no hand in its creation other than being the vocalist, which gives him NO artistic rights for it.


LMFAO. Oh man. If this isn't a contradiction, I don't know what is.

PKB, the rest of the world doesnt play by the RIAA/MPAA's rules. Also, there IS a world out there.

It's not really a contradiction. What PKB is getting at is that, it isn't such a corprate situation as involving the RIAA/MPAA. It's a matter of who actually wrote the song. Which Ozzy didn't do. He didn't even write the lyrics. The song is not his in the least.

Author:  Pantsman [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:17 pm ]
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Hanzo wrote:
YomToxic wrote:
psychokittyboy wrote:
And no, it is not "partly his". He had no hand in its creation other than being the vocalist, which gives him NO artistic rights for it.


LMFAO. Oh man. If this isn't a contradiction, I don't know what is.

PKB, the rest of the world doesnt play by the RIAA/MPAA's rules. Also, there IS a world out there.

It's not really a contradiction. What PKB is getting at is that, it isn't such a corprate situation as involving the RIAA/MPAA. It's a matter of who actually wrote the song. Which Ozzy didn't do. He didn't even write the lyrics. The song is not his in the least.


I was actually pointing out what a contradiction it was when he said "had no hand in his creation than being the vocalist". The song was "created"(or should I say, replicated) through his lungs, and thus deserves some sort of credit. Which can be given as "{Song name} - Cover by <cover artist name>".

I get what you were trying to say there, though. It's cool.

Author:  「H A N Z O」 [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:24 pm ]
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YomToxic wrote:
Hanzo wrote:
YomToxic wrote:
psychokittyboy wrote:
And no, it is not "partly his". He had no hand in its creation other than being the vocalist, which gives him NO artistic rights for it.


LMFAO. Oh man. If this isn't a contradiction, I don't know what is.

PKB, the rest of the world doesnt play by the RIAA/MPAA's rules. Also, there IS a world out there.

It's not really a contradiction. What PKB is getting at is that, it isn't such a corprate situation as involving the RIAA/MPAA. It's a matter of who actually wrote the song. Which Ozzy didn't do. He didn't even write the lyrics. The song is not his in the least.


I was actually pointing out what a contradiction it was when he said "had no hand in his creation than being the vocalist". The song was "created"(or should I say, replicated) through his lungs, and thus deserves some sort of credit. Which can be given as "{Song name} - Cover by <cover artist name>".

Not really. Like I said, the lyrics wen't written by him. A thousand other singers could have done it. Besides that, a song is more than just lyrics, and the combantion of the guitarist, bassist and drummer far outweighs the singer.

Author:  psychokittyboy [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:40 pm ]
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Aaaaaaaaaand:

Image


:)

Author:  Sublem [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Favorite songs

Like I said learn the rules of business, if it's in the label/album then they have their rights to the song, thus that making it "Ozzys"

I'm not saying it is originally Ozzys, what I am saying is that I like his version... now can we stop this childish bickering?

Author:  BlackAmethyst [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:07 pm ]
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psychokittyboy wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaand:

Image


:)

I can produce something and sell the ownership.

You explicitly talked about reading "rights" on the location "CD Cover" which I found in my example but which you lack in yours.

And don't tell me you don't:
psychokittyboy wrote:
Ever read rights in a CD cover?

Author:  psychokittyboy [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:10 pm ]
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Okay, you dumb fuck, follow closely.


He doesn't have a version. He actually used the song from Black Sabbath's Paranoid on his album, under permission by his ex-bandmates of Black Sabbath. None of the members of Ozzy, save Ozzy himself, were part of the song.

How many times do we have to go over this? Do I have to fucking pull out the Paranoid album to get through your thick fucking skull?

Author:  psychokittyboy [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:18 pm ]
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As to Kain, I could go through my 200 plus CD's and coppy every page... but I rather not.

I made my point, and as soon as I find my Paranoid album I can show Ozzy had no rights to the song in question.

Author:  BlackAmethyst [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:51 pm ]
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I don't give a shit about Ozzy's rights over something, I just made your argument thrown at Yom invalid for the sake of conversation over the topic of musical rights. My whole point is completely unrelated to your main's.

Author:  psychokittyboy [ Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Favorite songs

I just showed who made/owns song. :|

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