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Cant kill the gods if they don't exist, and since they don't exist, the practice is nothing more but a waste of time.




Right now, prove to me without a shadow of a doubt that God/gods do not exist.

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Post Re: Another important biblical question.
Sigh... Prove that they do exist...


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Post Re: Another important biblical question.
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Sigh... Prove that they do exist...



He is the one that made the claim that without a shadow of a doubt they do not exist, thus the burden of proof is on him. Keep up.

Also, an ancient quote but a good one.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

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Post Re: Another important biblical question.
The thing is, it is not necessary to prove that God doesn't exist. We can prove that in a natural state God doesn't exist (so at least if the Universe is what we view it as, God is not real) but we can't prove that the Universe truly is what it is... but we can't prove that the Universe is actually just a Giant's Cock, either.

Here's the thing, PKB, if anyone wishes to claim that something DOES exist, they are the one who require evidence. That's like if someone decided to say that Marly the dancing banana exists and then said "prove other wise".

As an atheist, we can not believe in God and not actually claim that we know 100% that he doesn't exist, but as a theist you are claiming he does exist. But what proof do you have to say such a thing?

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Post Re: Another important biblical question.
Look, I haven't made the claim.

You seem to fail to understand the concept that the one who proposes and idea, is the one who has he burdan of proof.


And what haven't you been? For over a year you claimed to be an agnostic, and said Atheists were narrow minded. I'm gonna throw this out there and say you should stick to one belief for awhile before laying down claims and judging people.

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Post Re: Another important biblical question.
I guess I should point out that Atheists who truly believe that there is, without a doubt, no God are narrow minded. This I still believe in and always will.

the only difference is that I've learned that Agnosticism is separate from Theism vs. Atheism. It's not a middle ground, but a philosophy. I am an Agnostic for I do not believe in absolutes, but I am also Atheist because I do not believe in God. Lack of a belief is not stating that it doesn't exist, but that there's no proof that it does exist. Two kinds of Atheists: Those who say "I do not believe in God" and those who say "I believe that there is no God".

When you believe in something, you are claiming that it is fact.

PKB, do you believe in God? If so, where is your proof?

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Post Re: Another important biblical question.
Again, I never said I have proof. Only personal experiences to go by. Which is what determines the belief of every human on this planet.

Nor did I state that anything. All I did was demand that kid to back up his statement, which he has failed to do.

And to Lime. Getting angry and demanding conversion of others is not my way, thus why I am perplexed by Lime's anger towards Christians. It seems so... hypocritical, seeing as he has stated he hates how pushy Christians are, but he goes out of his way to pester them. Should we not lead by example?

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Post Re: Another important biblical question.
Personal experiences that claim that Jesus is the Savior of Man and the son of God? And what of the Muslims who claim that they have personal experiences that turn them to Islam as the true religion? Or the Hindus who turn to Hinduism due to personal experiences?

Do you truly believe that YOUR religion and/or experiences are truly that special that you must worship something that otherwise has no proof?

I know I may seem like I am attacking, but I am merely responding the same way I would if you were to claim that you believe in a talking billy goat named Rudolph. I am curious of your belief and how you were able to make it. Surely you must have a better defense for it other than "personal experiences"... maybe we can start off with how that personal experience led you to Christianity.

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Post Re: Disproving God
God isn't real? But the voices in my head tell me he's realer than all of you. They're also saying all of your pagan gods are not real, and I should purge all non-believers.

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Post Re: Disproving God
I'm a Catholic :yara




But I dont care what people say about there is a God or there isnt a God, its just an opinion that person has so why bother continuing to talk about how there is a God or no God at all?

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Post Re: Disproving God
Truly you cannot prove that anything or anyone actually exists.

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Post Re: Another important biblical question.
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I go out of my way to pester them as they do me. It is not out of spite but more or less me trying to stand my ground. Christians constantly pester everyone else, why not push back?


Really? How many Christians were pestering you on this site before you started these topics?

For that matter, how often was Christianity brought up by Christians other than in the Abortion debates of past FH's?

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Post Re: Disproving God
Agnostic fag here.

God is sadistic and stupid.

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How is he sadistic?

Better yet, how is an all knowing being stupid?

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Post Re: Disproving God
Truth like time is relative... To make something real to you all you have to do is believe it exists 100 percent... look at hallucinations... that may well be all this is. Sadly when only you can see it, evidence is not likely to happen. I once stared at a wall for an hour and forced myself to believe there was a spider on it after that hour I jumped up and smashed the thing into the wall trying to kill it. I did but when I went to get something to clean it up it was gone, the only thing there was blood from the knuckle I split. Belief is a tricky thing, I can make fantasy a reality, and vise~versa. Which is why I don't worship God. I do accept the possibility a being like that could exist, but as of right now I don't think one exists that even remotely cares about us. By the way I'm too lazy but could you look up how much money Christianity made last year? Tax free.


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