I believe God is pleased when evil is sacrificed and the remains becomes purified, which could happen to us all after death. And if you believe you know if He has free will or not, here is a little question. Did God know light would be good before He created it?

Before He saw it**

of coarse he did, how to explain this to you so you will understand, he created the concept of light before he created it the aspect we know as light or brightness didn't exist, Light was designed by god to be bright and made of photons which were not physical perse, god designed it of coarse he knew it would be good before he finalized the order.

I mean you don't order a pizza with strange toppings unless you know it's gonna be good.

evil, evil will be completely and utterly made into nothingness, there will be no remains, there will be no purifying of evil. now on the other hand there is nothing to stop god from doing that Or say for him to make new versions of all the evil people but instead with perfect minds.

there is a possibility he May do the later, but the bible says the first will not be done, those who seek death shall find it and shall ot escape from it, in short all those people who believe you become nothing when you die will first go through torment in hell, then they will be granted thier belief system when they finally know the truth, when they know they were wrong and have no way out, they will scream "No nononoooNO!!!!!!!" as all of hell is cast into the lake of fire. they believed it, they accepted it but when it comes time for it to really happen they always wish there was something else. it's very sad.. if only they had believed before they got to hell.

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also Einstein kind of proves hell can exist even in theory tbh... and I'm confused on what you say about if all evil doers will be purified in the fact that they will go to hell or are just burned to nothing or just if the evil temptations that binded them to evil are burned to nothing.

And if evil will turn to nothing why do we give a lamb to the wilderness to Azazel. This basically ensures that evil never perishes. Or darkness, or chaos which is all needed in order to be good or orderly or light. all these things on the negative side really aren't bad or dark or chaotic but it could also be lacking good or lacking light or lacking chaos or not clean. it doesn't nessacarily pin what evil is.
And what I was saying was that if good and bad get boiled down to true and not true, then how would God have known light was good untill He actually saw it, He might have made it in the design of being good but without seeing it He doesn't know yet. Idk this is all just speculation, I'm not sure if I even make sense right now XD

and light not in the visable spectrum still has intensities, so your point doesn't make sense

Intensites and brightness are not necessarily the same thing, and I'm just trying to knock away any hole I can

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they are both aspects of light not darkness. Just like energy is aspects of order unless we talk about entropy, which is level of chaos and if we can put a level on it it really can't be too chaotic XD but then that brings an argument of heat. that all chaos energy is burned away into the tempurature of the universe and then it brings an argument that there is no such thing as absolute lack of heat. but only in theory. So I would say there is no such thing as pure evil due to the fact it is all relative. we can't say a lie with the absence of truth once we exist as a creature

you presume too much. you don't nderstand my writing at all, the poit wasn't to describe light indefinitely, merely to say that god forethought about how it should act and look and so he made it so.

you don't order a pizza with something you have nver tried before unless you take a moment to think about it and discern if that sort of thing would be good on a pizza. there.

when god defined what was good it was merely for the sake of defining that it was made propperly without any issues, like a car that gets made in a factory undergoes inspections before it is sent to the market.

"And he doesn't, even though hes supposedly benevolent, or maybe, perhapse, he sees equally evil and good, maybe, its all part of the grand design in the first place, otherwise, why would it be here"

HFH : He is waiting for a specific time that he has pre ordained at which time all of hell will be cast into the lake of fire.. he doesn;t because he doesn't want to yet.

@HSE, you are taking the message the wrong way lol, it's all a test, life is a test.. will you pass or fail? on this particular test the answers are already given to you.

If you don't follow gods laws, god will still forgive you, he will however require you to really make attempts to change. infact to be honest the thing that gets me is that most of the things we like to do as humans are perfectly ok, just a few things are not, so why not just follow god's law? it's easy...

God forgives, now if you don;t beleive the old testament then thats where you need to start, what don't you believe about it?, you can PM me if you like. I may incorporate the answers into a post here as well for others.

let me start by saying this; the entire old testament is intricately intertwined, you cannot have any of it without the other parts. so naturally if you were to say "prove the miracles of moses as truth" then that would be a good start, next up, can you prove that what the prophets said has happened? next up can you prove that moses's story is entirely historically truthful?

if you can prove the old testament true, then you can move on to explore the new testament and correlate what is said there agianst the prophecies of old regarding the coming of the savior. then you have jesus, now with jesus we have roman legal documents that prove he was a real person and that he did die in an execution, there are also roman legal documents chronicalling sightings and acconts of his ressurection.

so we know jesus's story was true. next of coarse is jesus's disciples and paul. For a jew, Paul can teach you alot I strongly suggest reading about paul in the book of Acts.

it's not just somehting to pull in non jews lol.. thats what the jewish church might want you to think but it's not so. it's to save even the jews, you know why? because abraham's bossom (paradise) was really just part of hell that god had kept separate for his people so they wouldn't be tormented. it was a safe keeping place, anyone in life who followed god's will; would go to abraham's bossom when they died, even buddhists. buddhists thought it was heaven. this was back in the time when hell only had 1 layer that the devil ruled over.

but all that changed when jesus came, when jesus came he evacuated the souls in abraham's bossom and also freed the prisoned souls in hell paying for them all with his own soul. they all went to heaven with him, after that abraham's bossom became under the devil's controland is no more than a heavenly looking portion of the devil's torture playground. now there are many layers of hell. many of them look like a heaven of sorts, I've seen them. some of them look just like earth.

just keeping god's laws is not enough any more. you need the savior that has be prophesied of in the old testament. he is your only road out of hell and he offers it freely as a gift for you to hold out your hand and take.

it's so simple and easy, why not do it? no you don't have to start attending church at a different place, no you don't have to go to church more often or at all, so long as you are right with God then all you really need is to take care of yourself and your own needs while you are waiting to go to heaven. just follow God's laws and if you can't then truthfully repent and try again.

it's so simple.. why not?

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I guess I understand.. Tell me exactly where in the Old Testament that prophesizes Jesus. Also, if hell is such a bad place to be. why is satan given all this power in the first place to rule a portion of land? And you'r still not answering the question of what happens to people who don't believe specifically in Jesus. And I believe whole heartedly in the Old Testament so far I'v only read up to Judges. I just am not sure about one thing. The goat we offer on Yom Kippur to Azazel, why is this being given a name and why sacrifice him at all for that matter couldn't God do whatever he does or is it that God didn't create him or that he was a nessecity in order for this world to exist so by creating the world he was created (which could be linked to why evil exists temporarily)?

Because what if your wrong?

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Okay well lets see I do believe in some universal power that has allowed for our existence I believe that he has spoken to us down the thousands of years that we have existed they interpreted his words in their own way
I think there is only one god but that he is seen in countless different ways and that he is beyond our comprehension

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The only thing I really belive in is myself. I trust my instincts and experiences, my emotions and my mind.
When you ask about some omnipotent beeing like God I think that may exist, but even if he did - it doesn't really matter to me as long as I stand true to myself.
I'm not trying to be better person for anyone or anything but for myself. My actions are righteous in my own opinion and that's all there is. To me even if God or gods exist they are as good as nonexistent, if I met one after death - I will just say that I was a good man even thou I didn't belived in him/her/it.
Besides don't you think that life after death is in kind stupid or nothing to hope for since if it existed our current life would become so fucking meaningless, lose it's importance?

I belive in possibility of existance of inteligent powerfull beeing such as God since it's logical at some point if we consider for example how complicated this world is with all it's laws (but they may also seem convinient because we evolved in this enviorment, meaby there are some other worlds with way different laws of physics?) and that science still isn't sure how come that life was created in the first place but still it could be some random phenomenon. Anyway i don't refuse this possibility because I don't have any proof of it's existance but in reality I don't know anything about it for sure so it's existance isn't really important in my life even if it existed. I don't owe it anything that I know of since I never asked for anything. I don't also blame or thank it for all random negative or positive occurances.
"People are entirely too disbelieving of coincidence. They are far too ready to dismiss it and to build arcane structures of extremely rickety substance in order to avoid it. I, on the other hand, see coincidence everywhere as an inevitable consequence of the laws of probability, according to which having no unusual coincidence is far more unusual than any coincidence could possibly be." - Isaac Asimov

About religion - Religions create certain images of gods, stories and laws for people needs not the other way around.