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Post Re: I need serious advice here.
Yom, have you ever considered taking a few English literature classes? It might help clear up idiom and figurative usages.

In any case, I probably wouldn't have hung around if it wasn't for the serious discussion area, and honestly if it wasn't for debating things out with PKB back in the day in a surprisingly decent manner. That kept me around and interested enough to get invested otherwise, and I liked forums back then but didn't have a real home forum at the time (for reasons previously explained). The dating sims did lead me here minorly (Love Hina and Galaxy Angel, the actual dating sims, because I found them fun and hilarious at the time), but not the hentai stuff (I didn't actually know initially forkheads made the other stuff).

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"Twisting history".

That's rich, coming from you who acted like taking credit for the decision.

Doubly so when you keep trying to justify your own mistakes.

Triple again, coming from you who claimed Hanzo is dead.

Of course Dustin and everyone who posted in those threads are going to be mad - you deleted them before they could salvage the threads in question. Of course they're going to keep reposting despite your efforts to save face. After all, you, in your own words, wanted 'delicious drama' and to 'piss people off' by deleting threads. Not very nice when the heat creeps back in, eh?

The only thing that seems certain now is that there was no legal case, or it was a vague legal hole which you used to, in your own words, to 'piss people off and cause delicious drama'.

My point is made - your 'rule' (or sad excuse for one) was not benevolent.

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Post Re: I need serious advice here.
Ah, the great debates we had. I wish I still had the mind I used to, alas, sometimes nature kicks you in the brain.

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Yom, have you ever considered taking a few English literature classes? It might help clear up idiom and figurative usages.


I concur, my english isn't perfect.

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"Twisting history".

That's rich, coming from you who acted like taking credit for the decision.

Doubly so when you keep trying to justify your own mistakes.

Triple again, coming from you who claimed Hanzo is dead.

Of course Dustin and everyone who posted in those threads are going to be mad - you deleted them before they could salvage the threads in question. Of course they're going to keep reposting despite your efforts to save face. After all, you, in your own words, wanted 'delicious drama' and to 'piss people off' by deleting threads. Not very nice when the heat creeps back in, eh?

The only thing that seems certain now is that there was no legal case, or it was a vague legal hole which you used to, in your own words, to 'piss people off and cause delicious drama'.

My point is made - your 'rule' (or sad excuse for one) was not benevolent.


You're quite dense. You also don't understand humor, apparently. Regarding the hanzo is dead. I believe I said he died in some kind of war... a fictional war at that.

I never made a mistake. There is nothing to justify. I take credit for it, because I am the one who brought the loli ban to the table. I started the suggestion. Just as a senator who puts forth a bill might take credit if it goes through the house. Do you understand now?

I got my delicious drama. You were all livid, but I did everything by the book. Not doing so meant I would be removed from power, as we were democratically elected and had constant infighting(Spft, that's what actually happened to the site. It was the mod infighting). Hell, I wasn't even the one who nominated me, it was... shocksock? Maybe JMJ. Honestly, can't remember. Just remember liking that someone would nominate me.

Anyway, back to the subject at hand. The one that flies clean over your hand. You're mad because we did not wait, so you could save your stupid shit(readily available all over the internet, not just FH). That is not how rules work, especially when it involves the law. We wanted it off site, as fast as possible, to avoid any possible legal action(again, seems to fly over your head). This one part, at least, was not targeted to piss anyone off. The part targeted to piss off, was simply that it could not be on FH, not the manner in which we did it. We simply did as we always did, when a rule involving content went live. Same with Real murder photos that we had for a time. We went at that hard and fast, to avoid trouble.

I already posted the legal precedent. If you wish to ignore that, you're free to do so. Only makes you look like the ignorant one, and fuels my argument.

To put that in less intellectual terms. Lol, newfag mad cause he lost, now tries to willfully ignore fact.

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And I looked up your legal precedent(s).

Turns out the timing and the case specifics are all wrong. (thrown out in 2005, pleabargain guilty on 2008 despite the case being judged invalid, the 2010 was an actual child abuse image knap and 2012 was a plea bargain case after the SMCTF ruled on 3DCG realistic images)

And that's why you're such a great help. Keep being useful, PKB. I appreciate all the trouble.

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Post Re: I need serious advice here.
First off, I hope Icarus got his shit sorted out. I always blame the idiot that sent me it "My so called friends trying to get me in trouble." But yeah, Forkheads is strictly not work safe.

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I'm pretty sure FH has sunk to this point for no other reasons than that flash animations and newgrounds (our main source of members) are at its lowest point in history, and because sites like youtube, reddit, facebook, etc all have their own sub-communities. The mass bans probably didn't have that big of an effect.

Also, let's face it... the overall forum layout of FH is ugly as sin. People checking us out probably go "what the fuck" and close the tab.

But look at newgrounds' forum. It's not even 1/10 as active as it used to be. newgrounds is also dying.


My two cents after having read this debacle. Guys, it's not who started the fight but that the fighting happened at all. Let's be real here, fuck the dumb, nobody wants to be around when the cops show up. Maybe that doesn't exactly apply here but let's face it, that's a neurological thing. It goes back to our caveman days.

"There's a fight. How do I make it through this? Not being here when the winner is finished is what kept my progenitors alive, so…"

It's the bullshit that comes from the fight. First off, I don't care who deleted shit, deleting shit is a sin to me. I don't like to lose the ability to go back to written word and be nostalgic. That, the massive uncertainty of who will be next, any and I fucking mean any bans are immediately enough to drive people away.

Listen, I've seen some shit in my day. Do you want to know what always comes off as being true? Nobody won. Everybody regrets that it happened in the first place. Do you really want to be 70 before you realize what's important and that whatever started this is less important than settling this?

The biggest regrets I've seen, and you can probably think of examples of this yourselves, are letting shit go on for too long. We have fun here. Nobody wants to fight. The best thing to do is agree what matters: Forkheads.

For better or worse FH is what it is. We all have ideas to make FH what we think would be "better" and it's a human condition to always long for what used to be. Imagine if the site took care of itself. The server was paid for, the domain had a 100 year lease, the forum software took care of itself. There would be no need for "admins" or "sysops" or moderation of any kind. Each user had ultimate authority over their own shit.

That's basically what we have here. The difference is that we can't really let the server run itself, that's just not how this works. Yom, Zwei, Lime, whoever I'm missing, they handle shit mostly hands-off. That's the way it should be. "Mod powers" should be treated like rope to hang yourself: the best option is to not use it.

I'm not saying anybody fits this but just as a precautionary statement: anybody that wants mod powers wants to abuse them.

Now I'm just rambling. Could be the porn I've got on the other side of my screen. Anyway. What does who was wrong effect right now or in the future? Probably nothing.

For the record, I'm not sure any of that was any degree of important at any point in time. That's right. I hope you had fun arguing over nothing.

Oh yeah! what Parpol said. Yes, we're ugly as sin. We need to argue about that.

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Post Re: I need serious advice here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_sta ... ginia_case

http://www.ca4.uscourts.gov/Opinions/Pu ... 4288.P.pdf

^That is entirely legalese. To cut to the chase, that is his appeals, and it shows the ruling stood.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2008/12/19 ... legal.html

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/28319199#.Vq7Ww8gmz0s

Scroll through that. We were going with the first conviction, 2005. Which, if you will notice, the ruling has stood, even after going through the appeals process and to the supreme court in Virginia(well, appeals to be viewed by, which was rejected).

Honestly, this is fairly similar to the debate. We went through this, back and forth. I think the biggest argument on the other side was that there was only one conviction.

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To fluffy. I always enjoy arguing, whether it is over something of importance or not. That's pretty much how I came to be known on this site in the first place, arguing with Klacid in a Serious debate about war.

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Post Re: I need serious advice here.
YomToxic wrote:
n0th1n wrote:
Yom, have you ever considered taking a few English literature classes? It might help clear up idiom and figurative usages.


I concur, my english isn't perfect.

better than mine and it's the only language i know :P

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Post Re: I need serious advice here.
..... Did I just read through 5 pages of bullshit just to come to the conclusion that PKB is a asshat and Yom takes thing too personally..... I could have just read the 2012-2013 topics in Gen Serious. Waste of time, I need fucking sleep.

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Post Re: I need serious advice here.
The what topic?

Other than that, I can't argue. I'm all sorts of ass.

Edit:
"An asshat". You mean "an".

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"An asshat". You mean "an".

who gives 2 fucks about grammar? *crickets chirping* clearly no one

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Post Re: I need serious advice here.
Who are you, and why should I care? *crickets* Clearly, no one.

Notice, I used proper grammar there, and it was more effective than yours.

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OH, THE DRAMA, THE EXCITEMENT, THE TICKLING OF THE SCROTUM! WILL PEEKAYBEE CLAIM VICTORY? WILL YOMU MASTER ENGLISH? WILL WE FIND OUT THE TRUE IDENTITY OF ARCH_ENEMY?

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Hanzo also says he finds this entire topic hilarious.

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