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well what do you exepect from the most inexperinced man ever in office


No that would be this guy. Franklin Pierce 1853 – 1857 well he's a huge douche at least fucker tried to reenact slavery... :fireeye

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Post Re: Obama's Economic Strats.
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Noth1n... your comparison is very inaccurate.

I was saying that we can't JUDGE him as a president just yet because his actions haven't been resulting just yet (keep in mind, this was written awhile ago).

Hitler's intentions were obvious and we KNOW where that was going, same with a kid about to put his hand on a hot stove.

People seem to already be blaming Obama for a lot of shit that he can't help JUST YET. The fact is, he IS our commander in chief and we can either try to work with him or just be a bunch of counter-productive dipshits who bitch and moan all the time. In the case of Hitler or the kid, you can kill Hitler or get someone to help you kill Hitler, and you can grab the kid. What can we do with Obama? We can't stop him. Sure, debate is necessary, but the way these Conservatives have been acting is just ridiculous. all they do is whine about how he's destroying America.

as for Skyling and alternative energy; one of the things we need the most is alternative energies.
I do agree that Obama's plans are ridiculous (such as emission taxes) but the government does need to get involved in ending America's dependence on oil. What I propose the most is using ethanol and Biomass energy. Hell, we have a renewable supply in the Midwest, it's called corn. and we are constantly filling up landfills with garbage that we can use for energy instead. Petroleum is making America dependent on the Middle East, and since we're this (-) close to creating WW3 over there, it's not very good that we are sending all of our money over there.


Obama's intentions are actually rather obvious and laid out (like Hitler's were to anyone who decided to read his book). He wants to head up a front with a few other Democrats to start killing off a bunch of people in various ways, seemingly for eugenics purposes, though possibly this is also part of a quick economic solution. Whether its a successful economic solution I doubt but I find irrelevant as it is an unacceptable means. They guy says the first thing he wanted to sign in to office was FOCA (seriously though, first? come on now). And the only reason he didn't is the bill got so slammed by the public no one wanted to touch it in congress when it came time (despite having over a hundred "co-writers" or whatever). So, what's next? Well, he and the other dems for it actually said "ah well, too big a try, we'll just slip it in piece by piece then". Like... in the "health care reform" which isn't so blunt but they also thought would have more support than it seems to now. Yea, lets slip in some money incentives for doctors to initiate talks every 5 years about death consoling and to have the forms for pulling the plug orders ready with them to be filled out on the spot. Lets put in more funding and some of our FOCA acts, maybe slip in that old "doctors and nurses that are morally opposed to it MUST ACTUALLY ASSIST IN PERFORMING abortions or perform them themselves or they loose their jobs" (very stupid move, even from the side of those who support abortion [whom I've talked to and said it was a stupid move, doctors don't usually actually get criminal charges if a patient dies on their hands, they just might loose their job and have to go elsewhere]). Seems pretty clear to me. Cut off both ends of the life spectrum (at least to begin, then again he has been deploying more troops, so maybe thats to hit the center of the spectrum). For what purpose? Well, that's where the speculation comes in. Does he want to foreward Eugenics? Does he want to have ways of eliminating discretely possible opposition to the "new ways" or whatever might come next? Or is it simply a matter of they really like health care reform, but know we don't have the money for it right now to cover everyone, and see the best way to manage that is to reduce the population, particularly from the non-producing sectors.
In any case, after he was elected I told myself to wait, see what happens before I started going too much against him just yet. After all, it looked like he might be just a flat out liar, so what did I know? Maybe he was a flat out liar who's true face was something better?
First thing he does: put at least an "official" ban on torture. Well, ok, thats fine, though things lately have pointed to some shady things there.
But, within two days he starts expanding public funding, etc. of abortions and such again in areas where he has jurisdiction to do so as president. And then theres all this shit.

Yea, honestly, I used Hitler purposefully. Massive projects to eliminate unwanted members of society, tell people about the "public services" that are expanding, socialistic reforms, government takeover of industry. He already had a war on his hands so he didn't need to start one.

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Post Re: Obama's Economic Strats.
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CarsitoPyg wrote:
Noth1n... your comparison is very inaccurate.

I was saying that we can't JUDGE him as a president just yet because his actions haven't been resulting just yet (keep in mind, this was written awhile ago).

Hitler's intentions were obvious and we KNOW where that was going, same with a kid about to put his hand on a hot stove.

People seem to already be blaming Obama for a lot of shit that he can't help JUST YET. The fact is, he IS our commander in chief and we can either try to work with him or just be a bunch of counter-productive dipshits who bitch and moan all the time. In the case of Hitler or the kid, you can kill Hitler or get someone to help you kill Hitler, and you can grab the kid. What can we do with Obama? We can't stop him. Sure, debate is necessary, but the way these Conservatives have been acting is just ridiculous. all they do is whine about how he's destroying America.

as for Skyling and alternative energy; one of the things we need the most is alternative energies.
I do agree that Obama's plans are ridiculous (such as emission taxes) but the government does need to get involved in ending America's dependence on oil. What I propose the most is using ethanol and Biomass energy. Hell, we have a renewable supply in the Midwest, it's called corn. and we are constantly filling up landfills with garbage that we can use for energy instead. Petroleum is making America dependent on the Middle East, and since we're this (-) close to creating WW3 over there, it's not very good that we are sending all of our money over there.


Obama's intentions are actually rather obvious and laid out (like Hitler's were to anyone who decided to read his book). He wants to head up a front with a few other Democrats to start killing off a bunch of people in various ways, seemingly for eugenics purposes, though possibly this is also part of a quick economic solution. Whether its a successful economic solution I doubt but I find irrelevant as it is an unacceptable means. They guy says the first thing he wanted to sign in to office was FOCA (seriously though, first? come on now). And the only reason he didn't is the bill got so slammed by the public no one wanted to touch it in congress when it came time (despite having over a hundred "co-writers" or whatever). So, what's next? Well, he and the other dems for it actually said "ah well, too big a try, we'll just slip it in piece by piece then". Like... in the "health care reform" which isn't so blunt but they also thought would have more support than it seems to now. Yea, lets slip in some money incentives for doctors to initiate talks every 5 years about death consoling and to have the forms for pulling the plug orders ready with them to be filled out on the spot. Lets put in more funding and some of our FOCA acts, maybe slip in that old "doctors and nurses that are morally opposed to it MUST ACTUALLY ASSIST IN PERFORMING abortions or perform them themselves or they loose their jobs" (very stupid move, even from the side of those who support abortion [whom I've talked to and said it was a stupid move, doctors don't usually actually get criminal charges if a patient dies on their hands, they just might loose their job and have to go elsewhere]). Seems pretty clear to me. Cut off both ends of the life spectrum (at least to begin, then again he has been deploying more troops, so maybe thats to hit the center of the spectrum). For what purpose? Well, that's where the speculation comes in. Does he want to foreward Eugenics? Does he want to have ways of eliminating discretely possible opposition to the "new ways" or whatever might come next? Or is it simply a matter of they really like health care reform, but know we don't have the money for it right now to cover everyone, and see the best way to manage that is to reduce the population, particularly from the non-producing sectors.
In any case, after he was elected I told myself to wait, see what happens before I started going too much against him just yet. After all, it looked like he might be just a flat out liar, so what did I know? Maybe he was a flat out liar who's true face was something better?
First thing he does: put at least an "official" ban on torture. Well, ok, thats fine, though things lately have pointed to some shady things there.
But, within two days he starts expanding public funding, etc. of abortions and such again in areas where he has jurisdiction to do so as president. And then theres all this shit.

Yea, honestly, I used Hitler purposefully. Massive projects to eliminate unwanted members of society, tell people about the "public services" that are expanding, socialistic reforms, government takeover of industry. He already had a war on his hands so he didn't need to start one.


Interestingly though, you didn't seem to see the obvious "try to kill Obama" option. I mean you listed the hitler one, what stops us from killing Obama? Besides, people did try to kill hitler, as you may remember. Didn't work, but people tried. A few presidents have been successfully assassinated though, and we happen to be behind on the historical pattern of presidents being assassinated, dying in office, or attempted assassinations.
I do not myself approve of such actions, but they are there.
We could also NOT work with him at all and just fight him every step of the way as we can. Write our senetors and representatives voicing opposition to whatever policy/bills may be at hand, or encouraging others. Rallys and protests around. Etc. etc. Which some of us already have been doing.
For the record, by we I do not mean "conservatives". I am not a conservative, though I typically vote for conservatives (though that's carefully chosen among them, typically not republicans if there are other options). I am typically considered more liberal, but I don't really care for sticking to ideologies. They only hinder things.

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Post Re: Obama's Economic Strats.
i never said that his beliefs were good or bad. the whole reason for my comment was because I didn't like how people were already trying to blame him for problems that were going on.

as for your other stuff, fetuses are not self aware and aren't even people for that matter. Yolk isn't a chicken, it's yolk. Fetuses aren't people, they're fetuses.

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