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Who's More Evil?
Lex Luthor 27%  27%  [ 3 ]
The Joker 73%  73%  [ 8 ]
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In both of these comics, both The Joker and Lex Luthor have committed unspeakable acts of evil. However! It remains to be seen as to whom exactly is MORE evil...that's where you come in. There's a reason this is in Serious, because I don't want it to get spammed and I'm 100% serious about this thread.

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need more sauce to debate and weres the lex comic

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Fixed. Now delete the above two posts and move it to Serious :x


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The Joker is. He made that kid cry.

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The joker is, i agree with Toast


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Joker. Look at his report card. Huge improvment and the only proof of it.. Gone within an instant. The cakes can be replaced atleast.

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Lime wrote:
Evil is a subjective term.
The one I DISLIKE the most is the one where the kid cries.


Actually, Evil is a term denoted specifically a degree of lack of Good. Good referring here to the Objective Good, which generally in philosophy actually is directly related to how much God relates to it or is in it (not just Christian philosophy, this technically has to do with the philosophical idea of God, coming from an Aristotelian, or Platonic, line).

In any case, we need some more info here for this. Here is the method, there are 3 factors in ethics and morals for determining IF a thing is wrong and how wrong it is:
1) Objective: Is the act itself wrong/evil and what is the act itself
2) Intention: Was the act done with good or evil intention? What were the intentions?
3) Circumstances: What are the factors around all this. This is actually a pretty large area, and I might have to dig up some of the various subfields here, but I'll try and look towards the ones I can remember that seem most relevant to the cases at hand.

For now we can determine:
1) Objective: Both actions are theft, thus both objectively wrong.
2) Intention: They both seem to have had the intention of stealing, though beyond that I can't yet determine (possibly making the kid cry?)
3) Circumstances: Well, the fact that the kid will now have to face his father thinking he did so bad is one circumstance. However, we also do not know the value of the cakes, that'll be needed. We also don't know much about the original owner of the cakes and what the cakes were for.

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I would say Lex Luthor, for the fact that while the cakes may not have much MONETARY value, their emotional and sentimental value is through the roof.

Forty cakes is a lot of cakes. It's like...four tens. Who would need that many cakes for anything other than something incredibly important? With those cakes missing, it can be discerned that whatever celebration or festival previously planned will be ruined beyond salvation, and because of Luthor's ruthless intelligence it can be inferred that he had a plan for those cakes (as he often does) and that he didn't steal them on a whim, but rather to fulfill some higher purpose...perhaps a cake powered laser.

This is indefinitely more evil than stealing a report card, which can be recovered from the school administration with ease.


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I would say Lex Luthor, for the fact that while the cakes may not have much MONETARY value, their emotional and sentimental value is through the roof.

Forty cakes is a lot of cakes. It's like...four tens. Who would need that many cakes for anything other than something incredibly important? With those cakes missing, it can be discerned that whatever celebration or festival previously planned will be ruined beyond salvation, and because of Luthor's ruthless intelligence it can be inferred that he had a plan for those cakes (as he often does) and that he didn't steal them on a whim, but rather to fulfill some higher purpose...perhaps a cake powered laser.

This is indefinitely more evil than stealing a report card, which can be recovered from the school administration with ease.

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I would say Lex Luthor, for the fact that while the cakes may not have much MONETARY value, their emotional and sentimental value is through the roof.

Forty cakes is a lot of cakes. It's like...four tens. Who would need that many cakes for anything other than something incredibly important? With those cakes missing, it can be discerned that whatever celebration or festival previously planned will be ruined beyond salvation, and because of Luthor's ruthless intelligence it can be inferred that he had a plan for those cakes (as he often does) and that he didn't steal them on a whim, but rather to fulfill some higher purpose...perhaps a cake powered laser.

This is indefinitely more evil than stealing a report card, which can be recovered from the school administration with ease.


I was under the impression he stole the cakes from a bakery or something, which would just have 40 cakes on hand for selling in general.

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I was under the impression he stole the cakes from a bakery or something, which would just have 40 cakes on hand for selling in general.

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The cakes that he had stolen were most likely bakery made, alltogether requiring a good amount of labor assuming he stole it from a small scale bakery unless he stole it from a large scale bakery making their worth pretty little.
The situation for the cakes' use will vary.

The child on the other hand, put much effort into the report card and is probably not smart enough to ask the teacher for hand written notes at the moment, will go home, be punished, be pissed, yada yada I'm sure a few of YOU have gotten bad grades. But if the father is smart he will have his child get a copy or call the teachers individually. Both of which require less time and money than required to make the cakes, small scale or not.

So it varies on the situation. I'm going to assume Lex stole those cakes from a small scale bakery and say his crime is worse, because the baker can't replace those cakes easily like a report card and is going to have to do hours more work to make them all again. And the order will probably be late which could cost him money and customer(s).

I know what it's like to lose a good report card but the feeling isn't near as bad as losing hours worth of work.

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^Actually, the piece of paper called a report card is not months of work. The grades depicted on it is, but as others have said, another copy can be easily received from the office if asked. They have to keep your grades on record, after all. The report card is not the original.

I'd say Lex Luthor is more evil considering both time and money, and even customers' trust. Skyling pretty much summed it up well.

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... I cannot make an unbiased choice. I know the Joker is more evil... so I want to choose him. The act itself however... I cannot decide.

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i'm straight up just going to say joker. just cause he's a bastard, and cakes are replaceable maybe some money involved but the report card u ain't going to get back.

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